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【2024/12/22 00:11 】 |
The history and truth of haidong gumdo unveiled in the court.
[The history and truth of haidong gumdo revealed in court]

In 1990s the endless legal and libel battle began among three men - Kim Jeong-ho and Na Han-il, the founder of handing gumdo, and Kim Chang-sik of "Shim Gum Do". Meanwhile, the history and truth of haidong gumdo, which were hidden, were coming out gradually.
After all, the court of Korea revealed the history of haidong gumdo. Let us see its history appeared in court step by step.

Please visit this link to read the full text
http://www.geocities.jp/bxninjin2004/index.htm##last_article

Some quotes from the link
Q: Does the deponent(Na Han-il) know the fact which the word of "haidong gumdo" used in 1982 for the first time?
A: Yes.

Q: Who invented this name?
A: Choe Tae-min, the priest invented it. He is a third person.

Q: Did the deponent close your "Shim Gum Do" gymnasium when you ran it with Kim Jeong-ho in 1983?
A: I just replaced a nameboard, and continued to run it.

Q: Does the deponent(Na Han-il) understand that "Shim Gum Do" and handing gumdo differ in content?
A: They don't differ but have relevance to each other.


Kim Chang-sik, the founder of "Shim Gum Do", also claims "Shim Gum Do" is not haidong gumdo. Kim Chang-sik clarified the reasons why he sought a provisional injunction in the application form to prohibit the release and distribution of the books and others. He wrote "'Shim Gum Do' has the characteristic to manipulate sword in one hand. In the others' sword two hands are used". Now in haidong gumdo, the method of two hands is mainstream, Unlike 'Shim Gum Do'.
When our magazine interviewed Kim Chang-sik, he surely confessed that he taught Na Han-il and Kim Jeong-ho directory. Then he also explained why "Shim Gum Do" and haidong gumdo differ, and the founders of haidong gumdo have never gone to "Ki Chun Moon" when they learn "Ki Chun Moon". The facts are simple.


Kim Jeong-ho, the president have learned Ki Chun Moon, and it is no wonder that he changed the narrative of Ki Chun Moon to the narrative of haidong gumdo. Still, some of the people, who learned Ki Chun Moon, have once met to learn discipline in the small house at Mt. Gwanak. This clarifies the rationale for Kim Jeong-ho's claim that master Baek Du-san taught him haidong gumdo at Mt.Gwanak.

In the result, master Baek Du-san was Pak Dae-yang of Ki Chun Moon.
And according to the evidence of Kim Chang-sik, who is the founder of Shim Gum Do, Mr. Son created Pungcha geombeop(風車剣法), giving the 100 days' invocation at Mt.Gwanak where the founders of haidong gumdo also learned this sword. Such various facts formed the basis to giving a concrete shape to master Baek Du-san, a fictional character, who taught haidong gumdo at Mt.Gwanak. It seemed Kim Jeong-ho's idea that Pak Dae-yang and Son promoted to master Baek Du-san.

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【2012/01/26 01:49 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
More on Bonguk Gum 本国剣全訳


Bonguk Gum (New sword art)
Hwangchangrang was from Shila, he went to Baekje when he was 7
He was crowded wherever he performed sword dance.
King of Baekje heard about him and ordered him to dance at the court.
He stabbed and killed the King.
He was also killed and people of Shila grieved his death.
They made mask that looked like him
and created sword dance.
The dance has been taught to present.

(This part is the author's analysis)
Hwangchang黄倡 is Hwangchang黄昌 which means he was Hwarang.
Like Sulrang and Yongrang, Hwangchang was Hwangchangrang.
There were thousands of Hwarang who were loyal and diligent.
Shila and Japan were next each other,the sword dance must had been taught
but there's no clear evidence.

Now I regard Hwangchangrang as beginning of Bonguku gum.

Why Mao Yuanyi found the sword method in Korea.
If compared to Western Touin, it can be Korean method.
If compared to Japanese Shosho, it's Chinese method.

Of course it passed more than 100 years since the time period that Mao was living.
It is not known who taughted it to who.

Why Koreans learn the method from Wubeizhi instead of passing down by themselves,
I don't understand.

I already said it was Mao's pretense, but now I mention about it again here under Bongukgum.

全文(ところどころ抜けてる字があるようなので、画像で確認されたし)
卷之三、本國劍 (增) (俗稱新劍)
卷之三、本国剣 (俗に言う新剣)

(增) 輿地勝覽曰黄倡郞新羅人也。
輿地勝覽いわく黄倡郞は新羅人だ。

諺傳季七歳入百濟、市中舞劍、觀者如堵。
伝わっているのは、7歳の時に百済に行き、市中で剣舞を舞っていると人だかりができるほどだった。

百濟王聞之名觀命昇堂舞劍倡郞、
百済王がそれを聞きつけ、自分の前で踊るよう命じた。

因刺王、國人殺之、羅人哀之、
彼は機を見て王を刺し殺し、彼もまた殺され新羅の人々はとても悲しみ、

像其容爲假面、作舞劍之、状至今傳之
彼に似た面を被って剣舞を作った、そしてそれは今に伝わる。

(案)黄倡一作黄昌、即新羅所置花郞也。
(作者の考え) 黄倡は黄昌だから新羅の花郎だ。

如述郞永郞之流故曰黄倡郞也。
述郞や永郞がそうなように黄倡郞なのだ。

花郞徒衆嘗數千人、相與勉礪忠信、
花郎徒は数千人おり、みな勤勉で忠信、

且新羅隣於倭國則其舞劍器、
且つ新羅は倭と接しているのでその剣舞器は、

必有相傳之術而不可攷矣。
伝わったにちがいない、とはいえはっきりした証拠はない。
 

今因黄倡郞爲本國劍之縁起。
今この黄倡郞故事を本国剣の縁起とみなそう。

焉至若茅元儀以爲劍譜得之朝鮮、
茅元儀はこの剣譜を朝鮮で得たという

朝鮮既譬於西域之等韻則是朝鮮自本國之譜也。
西域の等韻に例えれば、それは朝鮮のものということになる

又譬於日本之尚書則是朝鮮爲傳中國之譜也。
また、日本の尚書に例えれば、それは中国のものということになる。

無論其其傳今距茅氏之世爲百數十年則互相授受者爲誰而不少見何歟。
無論、茅氏の時代から百数十年立っているので、誰が誰に伝えたかなどわからない。

本國之人、何不自傳自習必待茅氏武備志而傳習之、未可知也。
我国の人々はなぜ自分たちで伝習しようとせずに、茅氏の武備志(中国の本)から習おうとするのか、私には理解出来ない。

前既言其茅氏之假託而今又臾論本國劍之下。
既に茅氏の假託だと述べたが、本国剣の項にも記載しておく。





So the translation on Turtlepress book version is wrong.
【2012/01/25 11:56 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
Korean nationalists revise books in a library
Library Ambush! The video exposes that Korean nationalists revise books in library by pasting sticker because the books describe things they don't like.
 

  

 


【2012/01/21 15:08 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0)
Korea didn't develope own martial art. Academic research.
According to
"Comparison of social systems in East Asia
and characters of martial arts in Japan,China,Korea"
東アジア社会の比較と、日中朝の武術の特徴
Professor Uozumi Takashi
International Budo University

China
ch1.jpgChina had 2 types of martial arts.
One was Army martial arts, the other one was Folk martial arts.

Martial arts were brought to Army during Ming
period while they were attacked by nomads in north and pirates in south.
any schools(門派) of 拳(hand) 槍(spear) 棍(stick) were born from Fork martial arts.
Martial arts manuals were written by military officers.




ch2.jpgEventhough Folk martial arts were banned during Qing period, the 3 martial arts were developed to be like professional performing arts or
Taoism style fitness.
Some minority tribes had their own martial arts but the arts didn't spread outside of the tribes or the regions.






ch2b.jpgWhen Wako pirates were tense Ming tried to learn Japanese sword arts but it went nowhere because of development of gun and canon,
And Japanese 2 handed sword style wasn't useful in cavalry which Qing Army emphasized.
Sword arts were almost gone except for the ones that some small tribes have had.







Korea
ko1.jpgTraditional martial art schools like what China and Japan had weren't found in Korea.
Muye dobo tongji(1790) was the almost only martial art book.
The book is oftenly used for comparative martial arts however establishment process of the book was complicated, it is necessary to be skeptical whether the book said was legit martial arts of the 3 countries or not.






ko2.jpgThe sort of "Korean traditional martial arts"
we see today are based on Muye dobo tongji.
The book was based on translation of Chinese books and took comlicated process to complete.

The book came out 200 years after they felt necessity of martial arts(Imjin war) , and the book was still based on translation, made by King's order.
The book has been the only "traditional" martial arts texts.
It means Korea didn't develope own martial art.


ko4.jpgYangban system which consisted civillian officials and military officials was established in Joseon period. But civilian officials were always higher than military official under the strong ideology of Confucianism which disrespected military.
Therefore martial art wasn't much developed.







Japan
ja1.jpgRuling class in Japan was military people, martial arts were highly respected.
Martial arts developed as a part of culture under the militaristic society.

In the 16th century, matchlock guns were mass-produced soon after it was brought which changed the form of battles.
Sword art schools were born when sword arts lost its practicality.






ja2.jpgMany schools were born during Sengoku period included Bow, Horse riding, Sword, Spear, Naginata, Jujutsu, and Swimming.
Early years of the martial arts were practical and systemized to be schools but they became ways to form character as Samurai in the 17th century.
Not just a skill but Samurai's way of life which was "Budo"






ja3.jpgThe background of establishment of Budo was Japan had different circmsutances than China and Korea.
Japan was surrounded by sea, there was almost no chance to get invaded by aliens.
There's no national defence forces, soldiers were fighting in civil wars.
Wars in Japan were traditionaly indivisual Samurai's war.
Samurai gained power by arms so Han system was established under military system, Samurai had to be always ready for war.
The swords Samurai always carry were symbol of the social rank and also their independent mind.
Samurai was Samurai since they were born unlike Chinese and Korean bureaucrats who were selected by examinations.



ja4.jpgMartial art manuals were written by martial artists.
There's no government made manual.
The school martial arts weren't unified, never used for soldier training directly.








ja5.jpgThe importance of sword arts was not practical but for strong intentionality of indivisual Samurai's art under Pax Tokugawa.
The role of Martial art culture was to make Samurai form personality as Samurai.
 
【2012/01/01 13:51 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0)
Problems in Korean martial arts and how to find good Dojo

【2011/12/23 10:16 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0)
A problem found in Turtlepress Muye dobo tongji
3faead97.jpgMuyedobotongji
 original text.
Translation of left half of the page from Turtlepress book P39,
"Since Korea is located away from the main continent, archery has been the only martial art that is widely practiced from the old days.
There are the sword and spear, but they are rarely practiced.
There is one method of spear fighting on horseback, but it is not systematized and is only used for testing.
Thus, the methods of sword and spear have long been taken for granted.
Due to negligence, when the Japanese invaded and attacked our soldiers without fear of death, many of our soldiers, holding the spear and sword in their own hands, could not even draw their weapons and were killed.
This is mainly because the methods of using those weapons have not been taught.
All matters in the universe have their own way: for archery one must practice shooting the arrow; for firearms one must fire the gun.
When deployed in camp, soldiers should not wait for the command to practice to be given, rather they must practice the techniques of the sword and spear whenever there is time available.

Korean people use spoons for eating meals whereas the Chinese use chopsticks,
both of them feel awkward because they are not in the habit of regularly using such tools. "

next page first 2 lines,
1adcde76.jpg"
If the spoon and the chopsticks cause such trouble, imagine how much more so this is true of the spear and the sword.

Although archery is the national art of Korea,
it is not sufficient for national deffence."

The underline part suppose to be "why other arts were abandoned(or trashed) " -the orange part in the picture.











【2011/12/14 11:36 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
Verification of Kuk Sool Won history

Wikipedia mentions Korea's Chiyou(Chi-woo) fantasy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_You
220px-Chi_You.gif


< Chi You. The stone print of the age of Han dynasty.

Controversy
A Korean novel was released in recent years called "Chi You King of Heaven" (蚩尤天皇). Controversially, this book claimed Chi You was of Korean ancestry in the old ancient country (Joo Shin, ?? in Korean), and that he defeated the Yellow Emperor at the tak rok.
Chongqing University professor (?中模) said this recent historical novel could not be taken seriously. Southwest University historians (趙振宇) have also denied the claims in the novel.



Koreans always say how they are smart but they blindly believe fantasic history they read or saw on novels and movies.
Here is Chiyou from a Korean Hwanpa book "Portraits of Hwanin"
bae14-chiwooAaaa.pngThey don't even have ancient painting of Chiyou.
Why they want Chiyou to be Korean?
Because he's a popular character in video games?
【2011/12/07 12:55 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
Verification of Haedong Gumdo History

"Gathered nobles' sons who had good looking, they dressed up, put make-ups on, named them Hwarang" is written on Samuguk Sagi- Shila Hongi - Jinheung year37.


Japan, China and Russia fishing Korea.


Samuguk Sagi Retsude
n - Uelji Moon Duk 乙支文徳
This is the whole text about UeljiMoonDuk. It's so little, isn't it?
Now you understand how Korean nationalists add so much fictions on ancient heroes.
BTW, there's no Samurang三郎.(Of course not! it's a fabrication.)


Japanese translation
邦訳。4行の詩で乙支文徳は隋を騙し、それを信じて退却する隋を襲っている。


Haedong Gumdo lawsuit judical records Korean transcript.(click つづきはこちら)
【2011/11/09 02:43 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
Haedong Gumdo is Japanese sword arts knockoff
海東剣道が日本のパクリであることの証拠





hgpkr1.jpg
Gicheoen






hgpkr2.jpg
Shimgumdo







hgpkr3.jpg
Haedong Gumdo






hgpkr4.jpg
Japanese traditional sword art






hgpkr5.jpg

Japanese traditional sword art





hgpkr8.jpg

Haedong gumdo's kamae is same as Kendo kamae.





hgpkr9.jpg

Comparison
Korean-Haedong gumdo-Japanese
Haedong gumdo looks like the Japanese.



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Real existing Edo period Kenjutsu uniform.





hgpkr11.jpg
"Japanese martial artists" in the 19th century
Photographed by Stillfried.





hgpkr12.jpg
Japanese woodblock print "Gekikenkai Ezu"






hgpkr13.jpg
【2011/11/08 05:48 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
Verification of Hapkido history

d1d9fa9f.jpgSamguk Sagi Retsuden Kim Yushin Year 647
攻守十日不解
10 days siege

Japanese translation
日本語版
c9751606.jpg 
「10日間の攻防でも攻め落とすことが出来なかった」
10日間の素手の戦いなどと書いてない。








Book of later Han - Koguryo den
Original text and Japanese translation


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Book of later Han
"Emperor Wu destroyed Wiman Joseon(Choson)"








34fcee95.jpgMogao cave painting
莫高窟の壁画






History of Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu
http://www.daito-ryu.org/jp/takeda-sokaku.html
3205f226.jpg

There's no Choi Yong Sool on Sokaku's biography.






1962年出版「合気術」中の「総裁崔龍述先生修道記」によれば崔龍述の経歴は以下のとおりだ。
Book "Aikijutsu" 1962
http://www.toshima.ne.jp/~fukuoka3/hapkido/hapkido2.htm

崔龍述インタビュー日本語1982
Choi Yong Sool interview 1982
http://www.toshima.ne.jp/~fukuoka3/hapkido/choiyonsul_interview.htm

RE JAPANESE HISTORY Buddhist temple & Silla Saburo


【2011/10/18 14:57 】 | Uriginal Issue | 有り難いご意見(0) | トラックバック()
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