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Was America Korean territory ?
Japanee version アメリカも韓国領土なのか
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【2010/07/30 16:00 】 | ChosonNinja | 有り難いご意見(6) | トラックバック()
Comments on Was Manchuria Korean territory?

gingerbeardbastard
2 日前

Ma Han took the eastern part? of its territory and gave it to them, because they are Qin people, they are also called Qin Han. Their language and words used to describe things are similar to the Chinese...their writing, armament, are the same as China's."

Why dont korean nationalist bring their own historical source up?
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gingerbeardbastard
2 日前

According to Beizhi and Samguk Sagi, using korean logic of race? = history, koreans are chinese too

"新罗者,其先本辰韩种也。地在高丽东南,居汉时乐浪地。辰韩亦

­曰秦韩。相传言秦世亡人避役来适,马韩割其东界居之,以秦人,故­名之曰秦韩。其言语名物,有似中国人。....其文字、甲兵,同­于中国 "



"Silla came from Zhen Han. Its southeast of Koguryo, belonging to the Lelang prefecture during Han. Zhen Han is also known as Qin Han. According to a common saying, after Qin fell, many people came as refugees.

Cont..
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gingerbeardbastard
3 日前

to quote what says after the "one family sentence" that says Bohai were seven tribes of Wuji.

Korean nationalist only reacts to what suits their nationalistic conclusions.

But what's funny is the book of? Jin(金史) on the FIRST sentences that say "Ancestors of Jin are Mohe" . Koreans ignore this when they distorted the Book of jin by saying Jin's ruling family was korean.

I dont trust heh scholarship of korea
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sikanosukeyamanaka
3 日前

@gingerbeardbastard

this is their weapon,「欽定滿洲源流考」

謹按金始祖本從新羅來號完顔氏所部稱完顔部新羅王金姓則金之逺派

出於新羅所居有白山黑水南北之境二千里而遥固與本朝肇興之地輪廣­相同大金國志言金國本名珠里真與

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gingerbeardbastard
2 日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

But the first sentence of 欽定滿洲源流考

上諭頃閲金史世紀雲金始祖居完顔部其地有白山黒水白山即長白山黒?水即黒龍江本朝肇興東土山川鍾毓與大金正同史又稱金之先出靺鞨部?古肅慎地

Wanyan Hanpu did travel to Koryo, but Wanyan Aguda didnt.

let's look at this source:

"金朝開國皇帝。漢名旻。女真名阿骨打。按出虎水(今黑龍江哈爾

¬濱東南阿什河)女真完顏部人。"金太祖完顏旻

 written by a Jin general who married jin princess.

“Jin first emperor called, han name is Min. Jurchen Aguda, from tiger water( today’s? Heilungjiang) is jurchen wanyen clansman.”

Korean nationalist ignored this source
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sikanosukeyamanaka
2 日前

@gingerbeardbastard

how? do you think about this from 金史?

「金之始祖諱函普,初從高麗來,年已六十餘矣。」
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

One must read the whole section in order to? see what it means, that is why Korean nationalist distorted the book of Jin. Korean nationalist loves to ignore the first sentences.

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FIRST sentence of the book of Jin

金之先,出靺鞨氏。靺鞨本號勿吉。金史

Ancestor of Jin originate from Mohe Tribe.

Also, Wanyan Hanpu DID go to Koryo. But it did not state he was Korean. Also it was Wanyan Aguda who establish Jin dynasty.

Another Source written by Jin dynasty that say Wanyan clan is jurchen
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

According to this source, Ancestor of Jin, Wanyan Min (refer to Wanyan Aguda) Wanyan Min is the Han name.

金朝開國皇帝。漢名旻。女真名阿骨打。按出虎水(今黑龍江哈爾¬?¬-濱東南阿什河)女真完顏部人- 金太祖完顏旻

"First emperor of Jin dynasty, Han name Min. Jurchen Name Aguda. From? tiger water (Today’s heilungjiang) is a Jurchen Wanyan Clansman"

Note that this source is written by a Jin dynasty general who married the Jin princess.

This is clear enough, i dont know why korean nationalists ignored this source.
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

史又稱金之先出靺鞨部 金史

Jin Ancestors are from Mohe Tribe

In fact, if you read Book of Jin is very clear. I can post the whole section that includes the claim that Hanpu is "korean", you? will see why it is distorted.
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

Entire? passage of

金之先,出靺鞨氏。靺鞨本号勿吉。勿吉,古肃慎地也。元魏时,勿

­吉有七 部:曰粟末部、曰伯咄部、曰安车骨部、曰拂涅部、曰号室部、曰黑­水部、曰白 山部。隋称靺鞨,而七部并同。唐初, 有黑水靺鞨、栗末靺鞨,其五部无闻。 粟末靺鞨始附高丽,姓大氏。李绩破高丽,粟末靺鞨保东牟山。后为­渤海,称王, 传十余世。有文字、礼乐、官府、制度。有五京、十五府、六十二州­。黑水靺鞨 居肃慎地,东濒海,南接高丽,亦附于高丽。尝以兵十五万众助高丽­拒唐太宗, 败于安市。开元中,来朝,置黑水府,以部长为都督、刺史,置长史­监之。赐都 督姓李氏,名献诚,领黑水经略使。其后渤海盛强,黑水役属之,朝­贡遂绝。五 代时,契丹尽取渤海地,而黑水靺鞨附属于契丹。其在南者籍契丹,­号熟女直; 其在北者不在契丹籍,号生女直。生女直地有混同江、长白山,混同­江亦号黑龙 江,所谓“白山黑水”是也。 金之始祖讳函普,初从高丽来,年已六十余矣。兄阿古乃好佛,留高­丽不肯 从,曰:“后世子孙必有能相聚者,吾不能去也。”独与弟保活里俱­。

cont...
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@gingerbeardbastard

Translated:

"The Mohe are the ancestors of the Jin. the? Mohe were called Wuji, the Wuji lived on the land of the Sushen people. There are seven Wuji tribes: Sumo, Boduo, Anchegu, Funie, Haoshi, Heishui, Baishan.

During the early Tang dynasty, the Sumo Mohe was a vassal of Koguryo and surnamed 'Da'.

Tang destroyed Koguryo, and the Sumo Mohe retreated to the to eastern mountains and estabilishes the state of Bohai, calling itself king and has writing, music

cont..
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@gingerbeardbastard

, established five capitals, five governments, sixteen provinces.

The Heishui (Blackwater) Mohe were also vassals of Koguryo and sent 150,000 troops to aid Koguryo against the Tang, but they were defeated at Anshi.

During the Five dynasties period? the Khitans destroyed Bohai, and the Heishui Mohe became a vassals of the Khitans. The southern ones became citizens of Liao [the Khitan state] and were known as "cooked" [meaning assimilated] Jurchen

cont..
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@gingerbeardbastard

while the northern ones were not citizens of Liao and thus were called? "raw" [unassimilated] Jurchens.

The "raw" Jurchen lived between the Heilongjiang River and Changbai Mountains, and so were called 'white mountain, black water.'

The ancestor of Jin, Hanpu 60 years old came from Koryo. His older brother Agunai was interested in Buddhism and thus did not come with him and remained in Koryo.

cont.. on next paragraph
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

始祖居完 ?部仆干水之涯,保活里居耶?。其后胡十?以曷???太祖,自言?其祖兄弟三 人相?而去,盖自?阿古乃之后。石土?、迪古乃,保活里之裔也。?及太祖??? 兵于境上,?耶律?十,乃使梁福、斡荅刺招?渤海人曰:“女直、?渤海本同一 家。”盖其初皆勿吉之七部也。
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@gingerbeardbastard

Their decendants were Shitumen and Digunai. When Taizhu [Wanyan Aguda] defeated Liao, Wodaci proclaimed to Bohai people "Bohai, Jurchen were originally one family" both were from seven tribes of Wuji."

The passage is very clear, it gives? the clear ethnic history of the Jurchen, which korean nationalists didnt mention.

Also, the passage doesnt state his ethnicity, Hanpu could be a buddist name but his brother Agunai is clearly nomadic. Not korean
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gingerbeardbastard
1日前

@sikanosukeyamanaka

Also the book of Jin stated Bohai was Jurchen, establish by Sumo Mohe which was? a vassal of Koyoryo.

Only korean nationalist fabricated Bohai was korean race. Its a lie and they did not quote that part of the Book of Jin because they wanted to hide their inferiority complex of the "korean race"
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gingerbeardbastard
3 日前

Haoshi, Heishui, Baishan."

So Wuji = Mohe (Mohe are juchen)

蓋自謂阿古乃之後。石土門、迪古乃,保活里之裔也。及太祖敗遼兵?於境上,獲耶律謝十,乃使梁福、斡荅刺招諭渤海人曰:「女直、渤?海本同一家。」蓋其初皆勿吉之七部也。

Their decendants were Shitumen and Digunai. When Taizhu [Wanyan Aguda] defeated Liao, Wodaci proclaimed to Bohai people "Bohai, Jurchen were originally one family" both were from seven tribes of Wuji."

So Bohai = Wuji.

If you look at wikipedia it stated Bohai? was korean race, and it only quoted "bohai, jurchen were originally same faily" but refuse cont.
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gingerbeardbastard
3 日前

Very informative, i also i wanted to back up with the Book of Jin wrote what Bohai, Korean nationalist distorted the book of jin saying Jin dynasty are korean because Bohai was korean race:

Well here is the book of Jin, Chapter 1

金之先,出靺鞨氏。靺鞨本号勿吉。勿吉,古?慎地也。元魏?,勿?吉有七 部:曰粟末部、曰伯咄部、曰安?骨部、曰拂涅部、曰号室部、曰黑?水部、曰白 山部。隋称靺鞨,而七部并同。

Translate:

The Mohe are the ancestors of the Jin. the Mohe were called Wuji, the Wuji lived on the land of the? Sushen people. There are seven Wuji tribes: Sumo, Boduo, Anchegu, Funie..
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gingerbeardbastard
3 日前

@BuffonMusa

Koguryo's first king, Jumong was born in today's manchuria, he wasnt born in the korean peninsular.

It is ok to say Kogoryo was part of? korean history. But to say Kogoryo was korean race is just absurd. Did the British say Saxons are British race in order to be british history? Or did India have to say Mughal are indians in order to be indian history? no

That's why koreans lie in order to satisfy their racial superiority orgasm in order to hide the inferiority complex.

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tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
you really should start to be honest to yourself first and then to others.
I was waiting for month to let it out as I had hope i was wrong but know I can say for sure you are a big fat LIAR and you try to manipulate people for your advantage. You really piss me of with your arrogance and lies. And you can backstabb me as you please I do not care as I know who is liar and for sure is not me.
Stay away from my channel. Thank you.
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
No angela...You can go in peace and don't expect me to go around saying anything bad about you (backstabbing). Its not the way I treat people and never will be. There is this saying:
"Be as wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
Have a great life and say whatever you want behind my back and publicly.

Once again...Thank you. *bow*
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
I don't want anything from you. And I was sure you will argue this way.
You have to stand up earlier to fool me. Sorry. Have a great day as well.
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
When people don't get what they want from me...I guess I am a big fat liar ?
Thank you very very much and have a great day Angela.
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
Its about time you show your colors. Have you gone back to your buddhist ways now? Using God is something the Bible teaches? Really?
What did you think...I would be fooled by your genuine learnings of what the bible teaches about brotherly love you offer?? Really? This love you show me is my shame?
God grants wisdom and not hatred in the heart and malicious revenge. Time tells all right?

Have a great day Angela and enjoy your peaceful and loving life...I will enjoy mine.
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
LOL you never change don't you??!!! You are such a shame ..... I never backstabed anyone you are a big fat hypocritcal liar sooner or later everone will find out.
You are not innicent at all and you even use God for your selfish ways. Don't force me to go in details. Stay away from my channel.
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
Your Christianity is shining so bright Angela and thank you for being a great example of attacking me first. I really really really appreciate what you have shared with me today!
I'll never forget this valuable lesson. Its proof enough of your GREAT Christianity.

Of course I am the hypocrite right? Thank you! *bow*
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
You ARE A BIG FAT HYPOCRITICAL LIAR and If I want to proof it i have many many sources from you. Enouhg said. Go in peace and try to become a good christian please.
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angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
YOur Christianly actions and your backstabiing ways was my provocation? You think I am this stupid not to know the difference?

Did I attack you first Angela? Is this my manipulations now? How Christianly of you! You call me the liar? REALLY?!!!
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
You think I m to ignorant to realize you try to provocate me??!!!Trying to manipulate my christian image into a buddhist??!!! You are ..............you can be lucky that I love Jesus if i wouldn't i would have used some ordinary words to you to describe your maliciouse hypocratical character. You offer nothing than hypocratical behavior and lies and you misuse naive poeple for your selfish agendas. Malicious revange??!!! You enjoy your life by misusing others.
Anyway God bless you
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
The only think you want is to keep your business alive nomatter at which costs.
And I am telling you this as your sister in christ .

tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
I love Jesus and nobody can take this away from me . You neither.
You attack everybody wiht your hypocratical lies and manipulative strategies.
And you even use God for your selfish agendas. I kow you for years now and I have observed you and your strategies. You are a BIG FAT HYPOCRATICAL LIAR
and I have many many proofs from you.I thank you for giving me/us that important lesson.
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@chosonninja
and Geg don't try to present yourself as a "humble" person as you are not humble at all.I know your true character and your negative side. I don't want anything from you even not if you would pay me with money.
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
I understand that defending myself is ARROGANT and your too ntelligent to notivced.

Forgive me for being bold with my defense. Your pretending that I am the accuser now? Perhaps the instigator of racial wars too? You sound just like them now. Insinuate as if I attack others and not the other way around. How people forget so quickly!
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
STOP your disgusting tactics Greg!!! I told you don't force me to go in details. You are a shame! Everythings happen for a reason Greg.Now the time has com for ME to reveal THE TRUTH which is you are a hypocratical liar and you need to work very much on your character and on your negative emotions as well.This is al you can do LIE LIE AND YOUR DIRTY TACTICS. Stay away from my channel. you think i did not noticed what you did??!!!
God bless you anyway
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angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
Stop showing of your wonderful backstabbing delusional Christanity Angela.
Jesus didn't teach us to judge or accuse others based on gossip!!!

tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
Haha you are to funny Greg! He did not teach us to judge or accuse others based on gossip. I know what I have seen and read from you Greg! I am not judging you I m only telling you THE TRUTH what I do think about you and your actions. He did teach us to be truth always and that is what I am doing I am telling THE TRUTH about you. Nothing more and less. It is you who are trying to bend my christianity image so that good christians do not believe me but you. try harder
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angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
Shame on you Greg! Shame on you!
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
I'll try to member I attacked you first. RIGHT? Especially with facts? Like I said. Defending myself is arrogant to you and you think your right to tell me to stop this?

You act like they never lie and the only person is lying is me. Your a great judge and your perfect right? Did Jesus teach you this to?...really?
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
you shall continue with some pride in what you do for free??!!! Is this what the bible teaches us???!!! I think i remember a quote where it is said if we do something good we should do this in secret and for sure not be pride about it or expect anything in return from God or others.......
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angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
I don't regret blocking you or asking you to stop stalking me. Its my shame but I'll pray for you and this is the best I can do.
Bye bye Angela.
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
stop dancing arround Greg! You might fool others but for sure you do NOT FOOL ME!
With your lies and disgusting tactics.. Leave my beloved Jesus out of your dirty ways
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angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
Hhaahaha you did blocked me when you read that I said I was friend with Houzan. I was doing what Jesus teaches us being a loving and kind compassionate meryful person. That is why you blocked me. I really need to control my mind to not let my anger grow up against you Greg. You can be thankfully i do love Jesus otherwise I would have used other words for explaining your shamefulness hypocratical lieing personality. Do not pray fo rme I do not want anything from you
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
You think you fooled me all this time? Really?

I am not the smartest man but surely not stupid.
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
You were a friend of houzan? This is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!

He deserves you! Please go stock him and try your lies on me.
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
Do not compare yourself with Jesus as you are not like him. In fact you are a hypocratical liar that is all. I hope minimum the kids will stay away from your videos.
Go and humble your self. Hypocrite !
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
LOLOLOL you even continue your lies now. I did not expect anything else than your lies Greg
I really do hope you get enlightenment from God and stop your lies.
Now leave me alone please
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
Please do not force me to make a video dedicated for you and your ugly person you are Greg!
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
you are a hypocritical LIAR and also a backstabber!

tayounorise

@MarvelmeetsManga
He started putting my "christianity" down.And he uses Christianity for his selfish agendas ...the ninja stuff is one part of it but the has many more. Jesus did teach us also to be truth and to tell ALWAYS the truth.
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
You asked me to stop stalking you???!! Now that is interesting Greg! Do you want me to show the chat where you apologized to me for having backstabbed me as a stalker and that you were so great fully for my amazing friendship???!!! You reep what you saw! The TRUTH WAS TESTED ONTO FIRE and hurts sometimes Greg!
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
you have misused my friendship for a very long time Greg! And I have saved your .....face for many times until you realized I became popular as you said I made it difficult for you.....do not let me go in details....you really should go and humble yourself and leave innocent children alone. Your are not the person you try to present in your videos
God bless you anyway
*bow*
angela
ChosonNinja

@tayounorise
You forget I blocked you? Was this taking advantage of your friendship? PLEASE!

And lets see if the children I teach feel the same about me. I mean they actually know me and train with me. Again my Christian sister...please dictate what i should do. I mean you actually know me and train with me right?

! last thing...I will never be the person you want me to be.
Go in peace.
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
You blocked me when you did read my comment i was saying i am freind with houzan suzuki. Do not you remember you told me in the past you wish me to be friend also with your "haters"??You are so hypocrite it is a shame! You really deserve nothing than THE TRUTH for all people to see! You are a twister of Truth nomatter on which topic your character is false and you do not control your aggressive emotions. You really shoud get some help and visit a psychologist.
It is time for you to admit the ugly person you are and be honest to your self and then treat others the way you want to be treated ok? Stop your lies you are so ugly you are disgusting me.
God bless you anyway LIAR
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@NakamuraMondo08
I did "share" dedicated my account with him as I thought he was a truthfully and honest person and that he engaged for the less fortunates for free but i did not knew this will make him possible to manipulate my playlists or comment with my name
Now i am convinced he uses even the less fortunates like me for his selfish agendas.
*bow*
angela
tayounorise

@ChosonNinja
you are such a shame!!Really do not you feel alittle ashame for your ugly lies about me and others???!!!
Stay away from me and my channel!

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